Deutschland, Deutschland, Uber Alles

[nathenpd]

Hey, I know we have a few Germans on this forum, and was wondering what the best area in Germany to fish is? I'm Thinking around Rugen, and the Boddensee. P.S. What german state do you guys all live in?

[tommi]

Hello,

yes the region of Rügen is great for big pikes and perches.
I am fishing 2 times a year in the baltic sea on Fehmarn for Seatrouts, it is a great fishing there too.

I live in Saarland near Ramstein Airbase.

Greetings Thomas

[bomber]

Yes this is great fishing in beautiful sourroundings. Read more here, ruegen.de/angelreviere-und-fischarten-insel-ruegen.html?&L=0&L=1
If you like pike fishing this is probably where the biggest are found. During the spawning period you are not allowed to fish for them. Also great offshore fishing.

Gerd from (Bundesland) Hamburg.

[tobi]

...i am from Rostock, in one and a half hour i reach the Bodden from home, and the Baltic Sea is 5minuts ago. Rostock and Rügen lays in Mecklenburg-Vorpommern.

[nathenpd]

Awesome guys, I was just wondering because i have been studying the german states, in german, and has wondering where the best fishing spots are. Are there any really popular fishing spots in Nordrhein - Westfallen (hope i spelled it right)?

[bomber]

In Nordrhein-Westfalen you can catch big pike and walleye (Zander) in the lake Möhnesee. Try googling for it, "Möhnesee + hechtangeln/ angeln" etc. In the summer it is crowded with lots of recreational activities so maybe you should try to hit it off-season.

Here is a (general) card with hotspots, www.angelurlaub.de/70000/70000a1/70000a1.html also take notice of forbidden area (nature conservation area)

[nathenpd]

Well if i did go it would be in the summer. Whats the best fishing in the summer? I know here pike fishing is not very good in the summer.

[bomber]

Generally pike are located at the deep spots during summer and winter. In the fall and in the spring they are located in the shallow bays. So you can always catch pike on such big lakes, you just have to adapt your fishing style and place to the season.

[andy83]

...i am also Rostock, in one and a half hour i reach the Bodden from home, and the Baltic Sea is 5minuts ago. Rostock and Rügen lays in Mecklenburg-Vorpommern.But in these Days I live in Danmark 6 Hours away from my Home Town.

[nathenpd]

Sprechen Sie Deutsch? lol, So ja, i'll be in Nordrhein - Westfalen this June, and i'm hoping to check out the Möhnesee, and the Angel Ussat tackle shop on the southern side of it.

[nathenpd]

Could anyone inform me on how excatly a german fishing liscense works? Like how much it costs, does it include saltwater as well as freshwater, and ect..

[cdj711]

Hi.

i try to put together what i know.
but we have different rules from country to country.
i am here in bavaria.

first of all: it is complicated. compared to US.

you need the fischereischein

only since a couple of years tourists can get such a thing.
before this nobody from another country was officially allowed to fish here in germany.
it will cost 40 euro (maybe more) you get at the town hall or rathaus. i think it is valid for one month. and you need a photo to apply for it.
this gives you the right to buy a licence and to fish in the sea.
for ALL fishing in freshwater you need an extra licence and this costs.
as you might imagine good water is expensive and the best water usually is unaccesable.

in general i would suggest not to bother to try to fish here.
but this is from a disappointed guy who never catch much and has to go to sweden or austria for some nice fishing.

if you are close to the dutch border i would suggest you try there.
you get a licence for a big area for about 20 or 30 euro and no fussing with bureaucracy.

if you still want to try here in germany it is best you have somebody to get you to the town hall because these forms can be tough to fill in.

i know this doesnt help much but thats how it is - unfortunately.

conclusion:
regarding fishing it is no DEUTSCHLAND DEUTSCHLAND UBER ALLES at al.

wolfgang

[nathenpd]

Thanks a lot for the information cdj711. I'll see what i can do to try to get some fishing in while in Germany.

[nathenpd]

Do any of you Germans have information about an Besucher Fischereischein?

[andy83]

You mean the Tourist Card.You must go to a Touristinformation and buy such a card.This Touristinformation exist in all Holiday Regions in Germany.With this Card its allowed to Fish 30 Days and you can buy a fishing license for the Lake where you will Fish.This one you can buy in a Fishing store in the near.

[nathenpd]

What kind of fish would I expect to catch if I fished in a pond in Germany? I know that you dont have bass or bluegill in Germany, and thats basically the only fish you'll find in ponds around here.

[andy83]

You can catch Northern Pike,Zander(Perch-Pike the european kind of Walleye),Bass and Asp.

[nathenpd]

Bass? I didnt think Germany had bass. What kind of bass are these?

[cdj711]

Hi.

i think bass means perch, yellow perch.

it is a little confusing because the perch are called bass here,
or is it the other way round?
anyway, we indeed have some, very very few little lakes and ponds which actually hold some largemouth, and they are called schwarzbarsch here, which means black bass and as far as i know this is the small mouth ... confusing.

we also have the wolfsbarsch which is the sea bass, but this is again a different story.

i suggest you concentrate on the pike and walleye, and if you get a chance try to fish in the RHEIN - this might give you a walleye of over 20 lbs or 40 inch, and this is a state record in almost any place in the US.

in ponds you usually find the fish which have been put in there. and this sometimes is just carp, sometimes some whitefish, and sometimes one or two kinds of predator, where the pike, again, may be the most common.

but as said before, dont put your expectation too high, germany is not a fishermans dream.
if fishing disapoints you, try rapala hunting. you might come home with a bunch of really rare stuff.
(still some Jan Eggers floating around in some shops)

wolfgang

[nathenpd]

Yeah, i've gotten a lot of different translations for bass in German. Flussbarsch, which turns out just to be a perch. Forellenbarsch, for largemouth bass, I guess because it looks like a Forelle and a Barsch. And Schwarzbarsch, for smallmouth bass, although in English, largemouth bass are considered black bass. Oh well, i'm not planning on bass fishing anyways. Mostly Raubfisch angeln, Hecht, Zander, Rapfen(or is a rapfen considered friedfisch?) Are there a lot of tackle shops that carry Rapalas in Germany? I know there is a tackle shop on the Mohnesee called Angel Ussat that I might be visiting.

[cdj711]

Hi.

the owner of angel ussat is Uli Beyer.
he editied with rapala some special sets.
one is called HECHT TOP 3.
it contains a SSR14 SFC, a J13 HT2, and a F13 P.
the SSR14 SFC seems to be quite rare.
maybe you can pick up one of these sets.

rapfen is officially a friedfisch but is living as a predator.
they are fun to catch and good to eat but have so many bones they are usually put back.

although you have to be careful about this.
nothing like catch and release allowed in germany.
every fish above legal size has to be killed by law.

i would try to go for the smaller shops, no homepage, no e-mail, no online shop. there are lying the real gems.
i have a shop here where the owner even doesnt want to ship anything. only if you go there you get them.

wolfgang

[nathenpd]

everything over legal size has to be killed? Why is that? That seems unsportsman like to me

[Bodeen]

So, if you have a legal limit of 5 zander, and you have 5 in the boat, what happens when you catch number 6? Or is there no limits

It sounds much better if you say, everything above legal limits must be eaten, rather than killed

[andy83]

there is no Limit for catching only for taking out for eating.When you kill the first 5 Fishes.Than you must relaised the rest.But a Sportsman kill no Fish.But when you you can keep your Fish in a Live Net.Than you can relaised the small or bigger Fishes.

[nathenpd]

I'm confused, so am I able to release all the fish that I catch, or just the ones under sized ones?

[cdj711]

Hi everybody.

sorry for the confusion.

I have tried to explain the law here in germany.
as far as i know this is for all over germany (because of tierschutzgesetz animal protection law)
but i might be wrong and it is just for bavaria.

we have here on most waters a limit of 1 fish (pike and zander) or 2 fish for most trout waters per day.
after you killed your fish (or maybe your 2 fish) you have to stop fishing.
that is what i wanted to say with no catch and release.
the way Andy describes it is general practice but illegal.
as simple as that.

and i said kill because you do not have to eat your fish.
the law says you have to bring it to reasonable use.
and it is that you have to kill every fish over the size limit,
because of our tierschutzgesetz.
according to this law, the hooking and landing does so much harm to the fish that it is not allowed to put it back.

this is in our constitution almost rated as high as human rights,
it seems by some people even higher.

in their eyes every fisherman is a blood-thirsty outlaw who is putting harm to innocent animals.

and dont let anybody know you fish here for sports.

the good sportsman everywhere in the world is the one who puts the fish back unharmed, especially the trophy fish, not so here in germany, the good fisherman is the one who kills his one or two fish and goes home.

i am sorry to get this deep into this now, but as i tried to explain before, deutschland no good for fishing.

wolfgang

[wallcat]

Well you just come over to the states and we will catch and release as many fish as you want to.

[Bodeen]

andy83 said:

there is no Limit for catching only for taking out for eating.When you kill the first 5 Fishes.Than you must relaised the rest.But a Sportsman kill no Fish.But when you you can keep your Fish in a Live Net.Than you can relaised the small or bigger Fishes.

I guess I am not a true sportsman cause I eat fish. At least it isn't called "harvesting" a fish.

[nathenpd]

Well I'm officially 150 days away from my trip to Germany. Still trying to figure out the easiest way to fish while I'm over there. I narrowed it down to either fishing private ponds, or going to the Netherlands the fish. What is required in order to fish in the Netherlands?

[petah]

A few things: common sense and a 'Vispas', sort of a state-permit to fish in most of the water in Holland, although the province of Noord-Holland has its own permit. The Vispas can be obtained at the local tacklestore.
Fish to expect in Holland are mainly Northern Pike, Zander, Perch and if you're lucky Asp.
Tackle to use is roughly the same as what I think you guys use in the States. Perhaps a little lighter.