J13 CG CW

[cdj711]

hi guys.

since nobody seems to have any of these for sale or trade could somebody out there who has them be so kind to send me a pic of these two babies please.

this is to say if i cant have them in person i would like to have them on paper/my PC.

thanks,
wolfgang

[Jason]

I dont think I have seen those colors , in that particular size . Actually for that matter , I dont think I have seen the CW in any size Jointed .

[Bodeen]

JSR CW

[cdj711]

Hi Jeff.

i think we "old" rapala collectors (like Jason and me LOL) do not mean a JSR when talking about a "jointed".

so it seems the CW was not made.
how about the CG?
please please tell me they didnt make it either.

and please dont tell me about any other colors in J13.

should i have after all (less than 11 months in the business) have my first set complete!??

thanks to you all for your help and inspiration!!

wolfgang

[wallcat]

Hey wolfgang put up the list of J-13's you have. I'd like to update my list and no I haven't seen CG or CW in Jointed any size.

[Jason]

I have the J 9 and maybe the 7 in CG . But no sign of the 5 11 or 13 .

[Jason]

Oh yah original Jointed . Sorry

bodeen said:

JSR CW

[cdj711]

JOINTED-13

B foil
B pearl
BEET (red head black)
BKCH (chartreuse head black)
BTR
BWT
CLN
FT1
FT2
FT3
G
GFR foil
GFR pearl
HT2
HT3
Jan Eggers I (green stripes)
Jan Eggers II (HT like = HT1?)
MD
MN
P
PK
RH
RHC («double» red head)
RT
S
SFC foil
SFC pearl
SHM (PW with SHIMANO logo)
TR

CG??
CW???

29/31 this is it. i hope.

regarding the J13 CW i got an e-mail from netherlands telling me that somebody has long time ago seen Jan Eggers using a J13 CW.
if this was an original or a prototype or whatever, i dont know. somebody wants to ask Jan?

regarding the RH there is an old version made-in-finland which i think i will never have NIB. so i am happy with the estonia one.
they look the same. just in case somebody has one extra NIB old FINLAND J13 RH please let me know.

wolfgang

p.s. ay Jason it is no fun with you J-9 CG ... is there something you dont have ... you dont have a J-13 CW

[Bodeen]

Do you have both versions of CLN? How about the older versions of the G or S color?

One thing I have seen in other sizes and would be sweet if it existed in size 13 would be the red head on chrome.

[petah]

cdj711 said:

regarding the J13 CW i got an e-mail from netherlands telling me that somebody has long time ago seen Jan Eggers using a J13 CW.
if this was an original or a prototype or whatever, i dont know. somebody wants to ask Jan?

regarding the RH there is an old version made-in-finland which i think i will never have NIB. so i am happy with the estonia one.
they look the same. just in case somebody has one extra NIB old FINLAND J13 RH please let me know.

wolfgang

I'm sorry to intrude on your conversation (my first post), but I guess that person was me.

About ten or twelve years ago, I so happened to stumble across Jan one time when I was fishing near his house. He was all to kind and after a short conversation, he offered me a glance into his tacklebox. I won't forget the J13 CW in his box, since the bill had been shortened. Jan explained he wasn't to keen on the depth the J13 CW was running, so he shaped the bill to his own liking. It had an even more striking action to it.

Regarding the RH: about 13 years ago, I usualy went to one particular store in the Netherlands to get my Rapala's. They were the only store who, at that time, had almost the entire collection of Rapalas at stock.
One time I got around and saw one of the most attractive Rapalas I had seen up until then. It's the RH, at that time issued as a Special only and in a very limited amount. Since at that time I was just a student, I couldn't afford more than one Rapala besides the ones I came for. So I only bought the one I still have.
It's different from the Estonian ones only for its bill. I'll try to enclose a picture of the both of them so you can see.



For the rest, they're the same.


Above the Finland version, below the Estonian version

Not being a collector back then, I have fished with it.

[Jason]

Thanks for the confirmation on the J 13 CW . And welcome to the boards Petah .

Maybe we could could get Andre or Nollie to stop by Jan Eggars house and pick one of those J 13 CW for each of us .

[cdj711]

Hi Peter.

good to see you are on (THE) board.

sorry for talking about you in third person,
but i was not sure you wanted to be mentioned here.
dont ever tell here again you used an OLD FINLAND J13 RH for fishing.
some people here might want to kill you for that.
cause for me and one or two others here i think i can say we are a little more than a little crazy.
on the other hand, i have heard that people are using H13 PMs for fishing.
did i say here are some crazy people.

thanks for officially confirming the CW.
another one i will never have ...

and Jason, this is MY contact so ALL J-13 CW go to me. LOL

actually i think it was your first contact.
who is here who was not been contacted by Jason first ... ??

and i am sure you guys dont want any J-13 with cut-down lip anyway.

wolfgang

[petah]

I don't mind at all. I would rather be on the save side too.

As for crazy, I think you already know I'm only keen on H13 and I've been fishing some of those too. Even with the RH I have.
So now I presume there is a marksman with my name in his booklet walking around?

I know, I was a fool back when I was a youngster...

@ Jason: maybe you should try to do so. God knows what that man has got in his attic. Must be paradise to some here. Even the spinners (Blinker auf deutsch) he marketed with his own name were very well...

[Jason]

Hey Peter
Id go knock on his door right now .... If it wasnt 6000 miles away LOL I think I will have better luck with one of you guys trying for me .

[wallcat]

Don't call me crazy as a H-13 fisherman. You guys are just as crazy in your own little ways.

[cdj711]

Hi Shane.

i am myself using H13 for fishing.
but i would never use a PM.
thats what i call crazy.

actually, even if i wanted to i couldnt cause they all went to USA.
unfortunately, i got in touch with Peter after i sold all H13 PM to you.
as a fellow of Jan he would have got one from me (as trade for a J13 CW).

but i guess some day i will walk in a shop and pick up another pack of 5 just as i did last time.

it seems this post is drifting off into the HUSKY corner.

lets concentrate on J13. why didnt they make a PM when they did the J11 in PM?

wolfgang

[wallcat]

J-13 seems to be the often neglected rapala line for specials. It seems to have the least of all of the series and even very few original colors. I think its popularity is high in N. Europe but pretty low elsewhere. A great display lure but for some reason they just don't sell a lot of them.

[petah]

wallcat said:

I think its popularity is high in N. Europe but pretty low elsewhere.

That is true, for the part of that it is very popular in this region. One of the first Rapala lures I bought was a J-13.
And in general it is used so often in our region, that on some boards there are discussions on that it has been used so much, that fish let a J-13 go by because they've been caught to many times on a J-13 (I don't know the right word for 'dressuur' in english).

[wallcat]

Fish have become "conditioned" to the lure type. Same thing happens here but not with J-13's because they are not used as often.

[cdj711]

hi guys.

i think this is one of the reasons some models get discontinued.
fish and fisherman get conditioned to lures.

in some of us this conditioning seems to have worked so well that we do not want the new but stay with the old stuff.

i think then its called collecting.

good to see the board is alive again. it was a little slow recently.
some of my new threads didnt produce a sinlge response.

just post a J13 or H13 and all you guys show up again.
and here it is said americans dont like the number 13.

wolfgang

[petah]

Offtopic:

wallcat said:

J-13 seems to be the often neglected rapala line for specials. It seems to have the least of all of the series and even very few original colors.

I was just thinking about what you said and it kept going through my mind... What about the Sliver? Have there been issued Specials of the Sliver?

[wallcat]

I haven't seen one marked special but there are some rare colors in that series including the

SL-13 B, and GRLB

Probably somewheres a special exists but this line is a short color production and so the specials are limited because of that. The J-13's however come in many colors but they just aren't popular in the US. Neither are the Slivers. They seem mostly limited to saltwater fishing and me Musky fishing with them at fast speeds.

[dutchie]

I will send Jan an E-mail this week and ask him about it.

Andre

[fizza]

Oct 4, 2007 10:20:11 GMT -4 cdj711 said:

JOINTED-13

B foil
B pearl
BEET (red head black)
BKCH (chartreuse head black)
BTR
BWT
CLN
FT1
FT2
FT3
G
GFR foil
GFR pearl
HT2
HT3
Jan Eggers I (green stripes)
Jan Eggers II (HT like = HT1?)
MD
MN
P
PK
RH
RHC («double» red head)
RT
S
SFC foil
SFC pearl
SHM (PW with SHIMANO logo)
TR

CG??
CW???

29/31 this is it. i hope.

regarding the J13 CW i got an e-mail from netherlands telling me that somebody has long time ago seen Jan Eggers using a J13 CW.
if this was an original or a prototype or whatever, i dont know. somebody wants to ask Jan?

regarding the RH there is an old version made-in-finland which i think i will never have NIB. so i am happy with the estonia one.
they look the same. just in case somebody has one extra NIB old FINLAND J13 RH please let me know.

wolfgang

p.s. ay Jason it is no fun with you J-9 CG ... is there something you dont have ... you dont have a J-13 CW

NO BLUE/SILVER in amongst these???

[Jason]

Think thats the blue foil .

[cdj711]

i think the blue pearl is also somehow silver.
at least they call the SFC silver fluorescent chartreuse ...

sorry about the Bp and Bf these should read B pearl and B foil, respectively.
so i would say Bp and Bf are both blue and silver,
unless fizza could show us a silver blue we have not seen.

i would not be surprised ...

BTW: HAPPY BIRTHDAY Jason!

w.

[t0m1]

J13, CG = it is possible that this color was made a very little time and very limited amounts from special order.
CW = never made. Of course it is possible that someone has ordered these, but there is not a single evidence of this.

EDIT:Due of my bad English: I try to say here that color CW was never made officially to public sale. IF that color exists it's made to someone like Jan Eggers or similar person.But cause there is not an evidence of this..NO,CW was never made.

[Bodeen]

No one would special order any Rapala lures and slowly release them into the market...would they Jason

[t0m1]

Sept 3, 2008 21:44:41 GMT -4 Bodeen said:

No one would special order any Rapala lures and slowly release them into the market...would they Jason

Rapala does every kind of colors to famous fisherman's, fishing journalists and others who got good commercial value.

Edit: I edited my post because I did understand bodeens answer wrong.