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Post by bacon on Mar 31, 2009 11:16:48 GMT -4
heres the dilema that i have   this was one of my earliest large purchases as a collector. i was still living at home and my mom almost killed me when she found out how much i had spent on them. now she would die if she knew what they were worth now. so this is my question to all of you as rapala collectors (first off, stop drooling). is this dealer box worth more with its full completment of 12 lures, or is the dealer box have the same value empty as full, or no real value at all, just the lures inside. i have a full set of all 6 salmon specials already in my collection(wish i had dealer boxes of them also) so this is kinda gravy anyway, but its kinda been a cornerstone of the collection for a long time now. if i get rid of them, i can still use the dealer box to display the 6 different ones. so what do you think about it. better as a whole unit. or better to part out given current prices? i normally would never consider this, but with the kid and other things going on, i havent had much budget to add to the collection much lately. and this would really put a dent on some of the whole im still trying to fill. bacon |
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Post by Fishooked on Mar 31, 2009 11:50:09 GMT -4
heres the dilema that i have this was one of my earliest large purchases as a collector. i was still living at home and my mom almost killed me when she found out how much i had spent on them. now she would die if she knew what they were worth now. so this is my question to all of you as rapala collectors (first off, stop drooling). is this dealer box worth more with its full completment of 12 lures, or is the dealer box have the same value empty as full, or no real value at all, just the lures inside. i have a full set of all 6 salmon specials already in my collection(wish i had dealer boxes of them also) so this is kinda gravy anyway, but its kinda been a cornerstone of the collection for a long time now. if i get rid of them, i can still use the dealer box to display the 6 different ones. so what do you think about it. better as a whole unit. or better to part out given current prices? i normally would never consider this, but with the kid and other things going on, i havent had much budget to add to the collection much lately. and this would really put a dent on some of the whole im still trying to fill. bacon Dammit I can't see the image, thanks to something being censored through my work web filter.  Im sure its awesome, I'll have to re-check this thread when I get home... |
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Post by RapalaGuru on Mar 31, 2009 12:48:55 GMT -4
Howdy Bacon,
It's an interesting spot you're in.
So I might get a little long-winded (as I seem to be doing more as I get older)
So many options,
As a complete unit it will have it's value.
Each lure, as would be described, coming from a known full dealers box,
I would expect would have maybe a little more value, than just a single lure that you can find.
I would assume, that the condition of each lure would be a tad bit better than those single lures we see listed.
Although I don't know the condition of the lure's?
The empty dealers box will have it's value.
It's from an era where we just don't see that many dealers boxes come from.
Remember, I believe that series was only out for 4 years, back in the 1970's.
so, if you do indeed keep the box, it will always have some value.
Plus it's one-hellva-box.
What you have there is a serious piece, in all of it's parts.
I would also state that, is the sum of all the piece's greater than the sum of each piece when added up.
I don't really know
Several other factors,
You know what you have in it $$ wise.
You have a pretty good idea of what each lure MAY bring you$$
I can't speak for you, I don't know what your looking to get out of it.
You have several options,
Put it out as a whole unit and cover your ass as best you can
and hope you can make a little extra on it.
Or split it all up and again cover your ass
and see what it all brings in the end.
It's really hard to judge value these days,
extra (fun money) is getting pretty tight.
So a High end piece may be out of range for some and
each piece might be able for collectors to budget for.
Yes, You do have quite a dilema,
But that is indeed a sweet centerpiece!!
Steve "Rapala-Guru"
ps. Give my best to your family.
That little one must be a handful.
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Post by wallcat on Mar 31, 2009 13:53:59 GMT -4
Bacon,
Longtime my friend. I think the lures as a 12 pack have a little more value than they do as individuals, but the challenge will be selling the entire to a collector big enough ($$) to pay the premium it should fetch. On the other hand, if you break it up its just another Salmon Special lure on ebay and I'm sure they will do fine, but one of the last cases of the Salmon Specials will be broken up forever. The box will have some value without the 12 lures but I think long term this would be a phenomenal piece to leave as your collection legacy.
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Post by Fishooked on Mar 31, 2009 14:26:23 GMT -4
I can't wait to see this thing.
If you could hang onto it so it could fetch a premium price when this economy bounced back that would be ideal, but who knows when that might be.
Maybe, just maybe, someone from Rapala themselves might be interested in purchasing such a piece to preserve some old Rapala history?
I don't have any contacts, but maybe some of you other folks might - can't hurt to try, right?
I would think they would have the money for sure...
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Post by bacon on Mar 31, 2009 18:41:47 GMT -4
Bacon, Longtime my friend. I think the lures as a 12 pack have a little more value than they do as individuals, but the challenge will be selling the entire to a collector big enough ($$) to pay the premium it should fetch. On the other hand, if you break it up its just another Salmon Special lure on ebay and I'm sure they will do fine, but one of the last cases of the Salmon Specials will be broken up forever. The box will have some value without the 12 lures but I think long term this would be a phenomenal piece to leave as your collection legacy. Holy crap, you are still alive. i was starting to wonder, had not heard from you in a while. I have always kinda felt that way about it. kinda nice knowing that its something that really might never be seen again. the problem is that there is no "price guide" for rapala lures like there is for so many other kinda of lures. as collectors, we are the price guide, so something like this i felt i really need to pass this by the "group" to get a feel for whether or not this has signifigant value in the eyes of collectors. i picked these 12 and a 6 pack of teal box SFR-7's from paul for about $12 a lure. back then it was a little high i thought(really, can you believe that). pretty good deal now. still have those SFR's too, i really need to post the pic of my collection. bacon |
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Post by RapalaGuru on Mar 31, 2009 20:29:06 GMT -4
Well isn't this just a tad-bit odd.
Look at this mottley 'group' of posters on this thread..
Boy's it's been a while.
"whether or not this has signifigant value in the eyes of collectors"
Oh yes it does!!
It's one of those "piece's" that will retain it's value.
I know it's tough not having a price guide for our collections.
I haven't kept up much with recent treads in current price's.
But in this case, it's the whole package.
And that in some respect makes this really difficult to price.
As a center-piece/ It's all that and more.
There are a handful of items that I would call center-piece's.
And some of those items have been 'broken up'
it's a shame, but I can also understand.
It would be nice to see this 'whole package" stay together.
And about the only way I know it will,
is that it stays in your collection.
I hope I didn't come off in that other post, saying that I thought you should
part with it, in any shape or form.
Steve "Rapala-Guru"
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Post by Fishooked on Mar 31, 2009 20:53:41 GMT -4
Well isn't this just a tad-bit odd. Look at this mottley 'group' of posters on this thread.. Boy's it's been a while. I'll say!  |
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Post by bacon on Mar 31, 2009 22:14:52 GMT -4
I said cornerstone, not centerpiece. however with the prices of these SS lures getting over $100 a pop on ebay, its becoming more and more of a centerpiece. current market value is variable of course, but i guess i will have to report this item to the insurance company at at least $1200, this is getting serious now. i think after the quick hubub, i think im going to have to put this back in the collection as is, i have plenty of other stuff to scour though to open up funds for collecting i guess. i think my wife was eyeing thinking new hardwood floors, guess she'll just have to go with oak instead of walnut  lol PS any of the rest of you insure your collections. |
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Post by RapalaGuru on Apr 1, 2009 6:53:23 GMT -4
Hey Bacon,
I hope I didn't cause the hubub?
I was just giving my 2 cents.
Piece's like this just don't come around that often.
When's the last time you saw anything that comes close to matching it?
Hell, when's the last really good set, dealers box with lures that came around?
cornerstone, center-piece, we can call it anything you want.
But it is, what it is.
It's one of those truly Rare items.
and like I said.
There are only a few of those that I would put into that catagory.
Very Few..
Matter of fact, I'd have to put it into my top 20 list, closier to the top.
Think about this,
Was marketed for the Great lakes, at least according to the catalogs I have.
It's from an era of Salmon fishing that was unreal, the 1970's on the Big lakes was untold as the salmon
were truly at there best.
It also carry's a truly 'Finland' birth. Rapala hadn't expanded production into other countries.
it has so much history, yet so little time on the market.
what do we figure, about a 4 year production run.
Never was brought back like the husky-13 was.
There's so much to it, that I could go on and on about it.
thus, that's why I refered to it as a 'center-piece'
If you do go the insurance route,
please keep this in mind.
Replacement value,
I believe the amount you stated above.
Do you think you could 'replace' the item at that price?
"getting serious now"
Yes, I think it is very serious.
it's like what, one of ?
I don't believe I've ever seen anything that comes close to it.
I don't think I ever seen another full dealers box of a 1970 correctly marked and red labeled salmon specials.
Have you?
Gotta go do that damn day job thing
Steve "Rapala-Guru"
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Post by bacon on Apr 5, 2009 17:40:06 GMT -4
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