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Post by t0m1 on Dec 16, 2008 7:19:33 GMT -4
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Post by Jason on Dec 16, 2008 9:35:46 GMT -4
Going to have to try and get my hands on one of these ;D
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Post by blastsniper on Dec 16, 2008 11:46:26 GMT -4
100$ each?!
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Post by Bodeen on Dec 16, 2008 14:51:11 GMT -4
I believe I will pass. Looks like they are just trying to make some quick cash off the family name.
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Post by t0m1 on Dec 16, 2008 19:56:14 GMT -4
Yah and buyers get their money at least on double right after these numbered ones are sold. Did you read what there was?? I have to say to that "quick cash off the family name" that you're totally wrong. Rapala lures are pure sh*t quality compared to these ones(Except H13,TE and FR series.And these are now Russian lures too = sh*t).
You really think that guy who was behind Rapala about 25yrs can't do better lure and he needs cash and rides with his family name.Dude..this is guy who saved Rapala from bankruptcy in -89 - -92. Owns now 3 most respected lure trademarks in Finland and several others (surprise,Rapala is not one of those most respected in here.Not even near). So no need to quick cash I think..And making 1000 special lures in traditional way is everything else than cheap and quick.
But yes, if lure is expensive when it costs near $10 this is not for those people.But now we must remember that this is special edition collectible lure,not in everyday use (sure you can use it and I can say you will catch fish with it.Lots).
In here Finland we pay even 100-200 euros from lure for fishing.70 euros is quite common price for some lures.Maybe stupid but thats a fact. I know many of these guys and they are all common people,not rich etc.
So that $100 is nothing to these guy's who know what this lure is and what it represents:Whole Finnish lure tradition. But this is just my opinion.
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Post by Bodeen on Dec 17, 2008 2:10:43 GMT -4
lure alone does not put fish in the boat. And the guy in florida is making money off the Rapala name, that is why he is selling them in the states for 100 bucks a pop.
I fill my freezer every year with fish and Rapala works fine for me. You can have the best lure in the world, if you don't know what you're doing, you ain't catching fish.
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Post by 10tacle on Dec 17, 2008 4:18:12 GMT -4
Well the lure looks pretty fine, but why do they intend to fit a classic lure with modern BN Owner trebles instead of proven classic style as O'Shaughnessys or Limerics. Bad choice...  |
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Post by muskiehunter on Dec 17, 2008 8:37:30 GMT -4
These look great except for the diving lip.Makes the lure look like S!@t. They should have stuck with the old style diving lips.Makes the lure look like it came from China.
I agree with 10tacle they made some bad choices on this one.
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Post by t0m1 on Dec 18, 2008 12:09:32 GMT -4
And Bodeen is one of worlds best fisher and specialist on Finnish lure making,right? I have fished 37yrs so it's quite clear to me how to get a fish (and still I laugh when trout kicks my ass when I thought that I know how to get it).I don't need your stories about freeser filling or fishing tips.
Sure you can be better fisherman than me,how do I know.But if we talk finnish traditional lure making you're still in kindengarten,sorry.
You fill your freezer, I let fish population to grow. Trout,Salmon and many other species are in great danger so I really respect all freeser fillers.
How much do you think that guy from Florida get's from that 100 bucks? Do you know what it costs to make this lure in traditional way? And what the h*ll...is it off from your wallet if you don't even buy these?
Main thing here is that first you claim that Jarmo Rapala tries to make quick cash and riding his family's name. And now it's all of guy from Florida..what...? Hmm...was USA the land where everyone have a change to make his own success story etc? And then there is some people who are almost lynching guy who makes few bucks from selling high quality product. Did you know that this Florida guys father was one of first Rapala sellers in USA?
Why you don't use your knowledge and efforts for example to get Rapala fake's out from eBay?
And to that lip thing: If chinese lure makers did use lip like this about 40- 50yrs ago...well,they did good job and probably had a spy among Finnish lure makers.This lure is combination of best lure's ever made in here. More chinese to me are Rapala plastics. And most of Your highly respected trademarks are made in China LOL If I get choose, I get that China product before these russian Rapala's.
And before someone says: "No,they are assembled in Estonia,not in Russia" I tell that before they get that assebled in estonia sticker they have made at least two trips to Russia. That Russia factory has been in use long time.
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Post by muskiehunter on Dec 18, 2008 12:45:41 GMT -4
The lips make them look like they were made in China. So were outta that does it say anything about how they were made.
The last time I checked Ranger & Triton, & Lund boats to name few were made in the USA not China.
Coca-Cola,Pepsi, Chevrolet,Dodge,Ford,etc made in the USA!!!!
Do some research before you claim OUR big trademarks are made in China.
Also seems like your trademarks aren't even made in Finland anymore.
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Post by blastsniper on Dec 18, 2008 13:16:13 GMT -4
Wooden lures, who cares, 10 pikes and they will be leaking. Not the worth the 100$ pricetag. Its only a collectable.
I fish for pike with goddamn softplastic swimbaits with a 2€ pricetag, and you know what. They catch as good as wooden/hard plastic lures. Depends in what kind of water you fish ofcourse.
And who cares if rapalas are made in russia or estonia? Keeps the pricetag lower, and catch as much fish as if they were made in finland.
Just my 2 cents.
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Post by t0m1 on Dec 18, 2008 19:03:23 GMT -4
LOL Every country has their own Coca-Cola factory,Pepsi factory etc. Sure your drinks are done in USA.
Btw when you did your research did you notice who owns "your" Dodge which is subdivision of Chrysler? Yah I did guess that you didn't.
And actually if you want some research here's few facts more:
In China they do Chevrolet.Chevrolet is a division of GM, which is a US based corporation with manufacturing operations spread throughout the world.Most of those are still made in USA but not for long. Mexico is taking your car factory's. Canada is taking those too.
Many of YOUR trademark cars are Japanese and Korean cars with YOUR trademark on the hood.
Most American car is Ford but that is multinational corporation too with factory's all over the world. Before you do little "research" and find your cars VIN number and research again where your car is truly made you can't be sure of anything.
And didn't I just told you that Rapala is made in f*ckin Russia? Not Finnish trademark anymore. So do I need you to write something I said back to me? No I don't.
And because this is Rapala board I did speak lure trademarks, not cars,boats or your soft drinks.Which seems to be "not so American" after all.
This was first my opinion ,most of Finnish fishermen opinion of lures and you made this USA vs Finland war because you're Rapala fanatic.Nice job!
Regards and still laughing, t0m1
And Dear moderators,feel free to ban me from this forum,I think I have done my point clear and said already all I want to say.Thank You.
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Post by muskiehunter on Dec 19, 2008 1:32:33 GMT -4
Ya I suppose China was making all this stuff 50 years ago no shit companies branch off into different parts of the world.Its called a business is growing,which it must do or else it will fail.In a nutshell its all about money!!! All the trademarks I mentioned were started in the USA and branched out just as Rapala has.And YES I do know who owns my dodge.
As far as trademarks not being fishing lures then be more specific .They still call Rapala's the Original Finnish Minnows but since they are made in different countries I guess they aren't so Finnish anymore are they.
I wish Rapala was still made in Finland because they do make really great lures.
Oh, I made a USA vs Finland war, get a life captain crabass , the only one having a shit fit about it is you.A few people voice their opinions and you have to start whining like a little sissy girl,because they don't care for the new lures.
If all your going to do is cut others down because of their opinions maybe you should go jump in a lake.Maybe this will cure your case of grumpy old man syndrome.
Regards
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Post by Jason on Dec 19, 2008 10:06:27 GMT -4
OK guys ... all this anger over a lure . Take it easy . Is all most XMAS . Lets enjoy it ;D
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Post by cdj711 on Dec 19, 2008 19:01:47 GMT -4
Hi everybody.
maybe some interesting facts about Rapala (from their homepage):
factory in IRELAND (Inverin) closed APR-08
factory in RUSSIA (Sortavala) opened in 2007; major operation: lure assembly; employees: 70
factory in FRANCE moved to Morvillars (this once was the VMC); hook manufacturing; employees: 250
factory in ESTONIA; focus on finishing, testing & shipping; employees 210
factory in FINLAND (Vääksy); focus on skilled and technical tasks in lure manufacturing; employees 200
factory in CHINA (Shenzhen); lures metal&plastic, hook manufacturing, gifts;
employees reduced from 3000+ to about 2000 in June-2008.
no more rapala from ireland;
still major contribution of finland;
russia and estonia (IMO) are mostly assembling, testing and packing/shipping stuff.
a truly international operation - which leaves the big question:
where are they "made"?
wolfgang
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Post by livetofish on Dec 20, 2008 21:15:12 GMT -4
I really don"t care what you guys are saying,(Putting them down) But I will own one of each color, Anyway you look at it ,It"s a RAPALA, Made by a RAPALA, so like they say,if it looks like a duck walks like a duck, flys like a duck, IT"S A FREAKING DUCK,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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Post by Fishooked on Dec 30, 2008 13:40:05 GMT -4
LOL Every country has their own Coca-Cola factory,Pepsi factory etc. Sure your drinks are done in USA. Btw when you did your research did you notice who owns "your" Dodge which is subdivision of Chrysler? Yah I did guess that you didn't. And actually if you want some research here's few facts more: In China they do Chevrolet.Chevrolet is a division of GM, which is a US based corporation with manufacturing operations spread throughout the world.Most of those are still made in USA but not for long. Mexico is taking your car factory's. Canada is taking those too. Many of YOUR trademark cars are Japanese and Korean cars with YOUR trademark on the hood. Most American car is Ford but that is multinational corporation too with factory's all over the world. Before you do little "research" and find your cars VIN number and research again where your car is truly made you can't be sure of anything. And didn't I just told you that Rapala is made in f*ckin Russia? Not Finnish trademark anymore. So do I need you to write something I said back to me? No I don't. And because this is Rapala board I did speak lure trademarks, not cars,boats or your soft drinks.Which seems to be "not so American" after all. This was first my opinion ,most of Finnish fishermen opinion of lures and you made this USA vs Finland war because you're Rapala fanatic.Nice job! Regards and still laughing, t0m1 And Dear moderators,feel free to ban me from this forum,I think I have done my point clear and said already all I want to say.Thank You. Lighten up, Francis. If you have problem with certain posters take it up via PM, otherwise the board has no use for posters such as yourself. |
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Post by alexas on Jul 20, 2010 13:06:16 GMT -4
I really don"t care what you guys are saying,(Putting them down) But I will own one of each color, Anyway you look at it ,It"s a RAPALA, Made by a RAPALA, so like they say,if it looks like a duck walks like a duck, flys like a duck, IT"S A FREAKING DUCK,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, dont be so angry... but yea its really duck.. |
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Post by rocfish on Jul 22, 2010 20:39:58 GMT -4
WoW! All this emotion over a lure!?! I have to admit, I think it would be neat to own a lure supposedly hand tuned and signed by a living member of the Rapala family. But... $100 bucks! Too pricey to actually use and risk losing the first time out, so, it pretty much resigns itself to being a pure collectors' item. And... I just can't justify $100 clams for a hunk of balsa with some hooks attached, regardless of its pedigree. I'm sure there are many a collector out there that will though, God bless 'em, people do what makes them happy. Did some online researching though, and a couple things puzzle me: First; Jarmo website claims to have only released 1000 of these "special" lures, that was in 2008, yet today, 2 years later, they can still be found on numerous websites for sale (Cabelas, TackleDirect), so, is the perceived scarcity real. Second; According to the Jarmo website, they are an established lure company, so, why don't they just try marketing some of their proven lures here in the States and show us all what a great lure really can be, I bet anglers would be willing to pay up to a third of the $100 collectors price tag to purchase a lure they could actually be comfortable fishing with. Just my 2 cents. Please understand I write all of this with no malice or heated feelings, its just some musings after reading the thread and looking at the websites. So no attacking my opinion.  |
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Post by Tom on Jul 25, 2010 17:43:14 GMT -4
I'm with rocfish on this one. Not the lure for me, but if people want one then i don't have a problem with that. Like i said, not the lure for me, but im not gonna go attacking someone if they are happy to pay that amount for a piece of tradition...
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