Walleye

[dutchie]

We went fishing for pike this weekend and caught this big walleye. ;D ;D ;D

He was 90 cm long. We also caught several pike but not as big as this one.



Andre

[Jason]

So thats a walleye
Nice fish !

[kutis]

Congratulations! That's really something! Did you got it with R-lure?

[dutchie]

No we didn't We are using these big 9 inch Relax shads. We use them for fishing pike, but sometimes we also catch a big walleye.



Andre

[wallcat]

Do you jig those lures or straight reeling retrieve or what? Jig head, plain hook,..etc..?? I've always wondered about using those big shad baits to catch monster walleyes

[Bodeen]

90 cm, what is that, like 18 inches

[dutchie]

Bodeen,

90 cm is 36 inches. Last year we caught one that was 39 inches.

Toninght I will make some pictures how we rig these big shads.

We use them trolling behind the boat in very shallow water sometimes not deeper than 3 feet so you need to fish them really close to the boat.

Andre

[dutchie]

Here are some pictures to show you how we prepare these shads:



First thing I do is take a jig-head from 21 gram and cut of the hook.



Then I take some super glue and glue the jig-head into the shad.





Then I take some multi strand and make one short and a little bit longer hook line and connect them with a sleeve. On one side a make a little loop and on the other side I connect a special Gamagatzu hook the one with the 2 bigger and 1 shorter hook.







Then put both loops over the jig-head and sting both small hooks into the shad. The short one on the bottom and the longer one as far to the back as possible.







That's it, very simple and very effective. What happens is when the fish strikes the hook comes out of the shad so he can not damage the shad.






Hope everything is clear for you guys.

Andre

[wallcat]

Awesome rigs. Thanks for the info. I'll have to give that set up a try for trolling up some walleyes and pike. I'll let you know how I do come next spring.

[nathenpd]

Thats a Zander, not a walleye. Walleyes are not found in the wild in Europe. But awesome fish anyways!

[Jason]

Didnt you guys already have this dispute .

[Bodeen]

I believe they did. Would be nice to freeze one, come over here, thaw it out, take a pic and send it to the paper State record here is 14 pounds.

[nathenpd]

lol, yes we did have this dispute, but i guess he still thinks its a walleye

[nathenpd]

From the in-fishertman website:
Difference Between Zander And Walleye

Manly Baker, East Providence, Rhode Island: "How much difference is there between zander and walleye?"

Walleye and zander are very closely related members of the perch family and not surprisingly are almost identical in appearance. However, there are enough differences between the two fish that the scientific community considers them two quite distinct and separate species.

In their natural range, for example, zander are found only in Europe while walleye are found exclusively in North America. Zander also tend to grow much bigger than walleye. While a 10- or 15-pound walleye is generally considered very large, zander of the same sizes are quite frequent and anglers have been know to catch them up to 30 pounds in weight.

Like walleye, zander possess a tapetum licidum in their eyes that make them negatively phototactic. Thus, they prefer dark, dimly lit conditions. The two species also tend to be found associated with similar structure and cover options and behave in many of the same ways.

Perhaps the best way to look at zander and walleye is the same way we view largemouth, smallmouth, and spotted bass. They are closely related but with enough differences to make each species distinct in its own right.

[Bodeen]

So they must taste identical then. More or less. Like a SM and LM. I could go for some Zander steaks in the freezer

[Bodeen]

I don't see any fish.

[troutwhisperer]

alls i see is a sign that says tinypic image or video has been moved or deleted

[nathenpd]

This thread is ancient, I think that the pictures are gone now, but by the way, a few months ago a fisherman in either Montana, or North Dakota caught a Zander in the wild. Years ago the put a small population of Zander in to research, and to see how they would adapt in North America. The fisherman said that he knew it was a Zander right away.

[troutwhisperer]

I think it was in North Dakota, If it where in Montana i would know.

[nathenpd]

Yep, your right North dekota. There is a little bit about the article here. www.nodakoutdoors.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=29578

[dutchie]

Here is another picture of a big Dutch Zander. 93 cm.



Andre

[cdenby]

yeah that is definately a Zander.. I fish walleye atleast 3 times a week.. and I can see the differences right away.. especially in the length of the mouth.. and size of pectoral fins..

And Walleye don't get that big.. not even close... We got a 33" walleye out of Lake Erie this year and its HUGE for around here.. not quite record size but getting close