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Post by domavius on Jan 19, 2011 18:58:25 GMT -4
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Post by domavius on Jan 30, 2011 20:07:46 GMT -4
And what other retrieve speeds are good? I might be doing it to fast. (which might when fish chase the lure, they miss it when they attack from the side)
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Post by Tom on Jan 31, 2011 12:46:21 GMT -4
as a general rule, reel in much slower in winter, because the fish are lethargic and unwilling to chase a lure, but in the summer you can crank it back in. Retrieve speeds also depend on the lure you are using, some lures work best at high speeds, some at low. At the moment, you could probably get away with speeding your retrieve up to about a medium speed, but when its really cold, the best thing to do is to let your lure sink to the bottom and reel it in as slow as you can without the lure's wiggle stopping.
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Post by domavius on Jan 31, 2011 14:04:19 GMT -4
Yes, is medium classed as 1 turn of the handle in 5 seconds and slow as 1 turn of the handle in 8-10 seconds?
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Post by Tom on Feb 1, 2011 17:17:45 GMT -4
i would say that those speeds are probably too slow to be honest. It depends on the gear ratio of your reel though. For an average reel geer ratio, i would say slow for me is about 1 turn every 3 seconds, medium about 1 turn per second, and fast maybe a couple of turns per second. Hope this helps.
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Post by domavius on Feb 2, 2011 9:34:38 GMT -4
Awesome. , since you fish more then I do, what retrieve techniques would you use for a suspending lure, floating ( like the orignal floater) and sinking (like a countdown)?
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Post by Tom on Feb 2, 2011 13:15:00 GMT -4
for a supsending lure, i would use a stop start retrieve, or jerk the lure and pause it after every other pull. With floating and sinking lures, i would reel them in pretty much the same, except when reeling faster with a floater to make it dive deeper, and slower with a sinker to help it hug the bottom.
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Post by domavius on Feb 3, 2011 13:35:06 GMT -4
and what techniques would be useful if ur fishing off a lake pier or if theres lillies or high weed or even murky water?
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Post by Tom on Feb 3, 2011 15:21:41 GMT -4
I don't retrieve any differently when the water is murky, but for fishing off a high pier, the best thing to do is to fish jigs, basically you cast these out, let them sink to the bottom, and then bring the lure back via a series of hops across the lake bed. For fishing lilies, a surface lure is best. Most surface lures need to be jerked across the surface, lets use the skitter pop as an example. Rather than reeling the lure in, you want to jerk the lure, then let it sit for a few seconds, then jerk again. If the fish are feeding aggressively, then keep the lure moving by jerking it without letting it sit between jerks. The same goes for high weed, although you can sometimes get away with shallow diving crankbaits. A good retrieve with these is to stop reeling every few seconds to let the lure float back up to the surface.
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Post by domavius on Feb 3, 2011 16:53:40 GMT -4
i was thinking about them low piers, were u can just stick ur foot in the water
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Post by Tom on Feb 3, 2011 17:49:22 GMT -4
well then retrieve techniques will be no different from when fishing from the bank or boat lol
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Post by domavius on Feb 5, 2011 7:58:25 GMT -4
But, what other retrieves would you use if you having bad luck fishing or bad weather (such as really hot summer days)?
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Post by Tom on Feb 5, 2011 10:51:30 GMT -4
if i wasn't having luck with, say, a fast retrieve, then i would slow it down. Do the opposite if your not having any luck with a slow retrieve. If that doesn't work, i would try an erratic retrieve, going from fast to slow, slow to fast, stopping it, short bursts of speed, jerks, etc. If none of this works, then you should switch to a different lure, preferably one which runs at a different depth, and experiment with different retrieves again. Hope this helps.
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Post by domavius on Feb 7, 2011 11:29:06 GMT -4
and what about weather, like if it becomes windy & the water becomes choppy and/or it sunny with not a cloud in the sky, or rainy or even night fishing?
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Post by Tom on Feb 7, 2011 14:11:15 GMT -4
i'm not sure about you guys, but i never really change my retrieve style in different weather, except maybe reeling in faster when its hot. Does anybody else have any tips?
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Post by keesvanderlaak on Feb 7, 2011 14:31:36 GMT -4
I always keep it slow unless in retreat but will change with twitches when needed. I like slow so much that I often pause the lure left suspending for even more then 10 sec before I start to retreat again.
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Post by domavius on Feb 19, 2011 6:48:38 GMT -4
and with what equpitment would do different like if you had flourocarbon mainline or a longer rod?
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Post by hot0n0tot on Feb 19, 2011 10:18:57 GMT -4
If you are fishing on a perfect blue bird day in the middle of the summer for some sort of bass or pike, throw something like an xrap or silver plated husky jerk, something with a lot of flash, and move it quick. Fast twitches all the way back so it really gleams in that sun. Hope this helps
Keenan
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Post by keesvanderlaak on Feb 20, 2011 17:27:00 GMT -4
I second that! A X-rap 10 in Hot Head will work!
Today I foundout that a SubWalk works on pike too!!
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Post by hot0n0tot on Feb 20, 2011 23:25:02 GMT -4
Oooooh Kees
Been thinking about buying some subwalks. Glad to hear that they work. I had a feeling. Anything with that flash and action seems to be more than hot when the fish are active. A lot of times fish strike on just instinct. That flash and side to side twitch seem to do it. It is positive that now i will buy some subwalks before my trip to Canada. Great info
Keenan
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Post by keesvanderlaak on Feb 21, 2011 15:13:51 GMT -4
Keenan, go out to buy a subwalk in Hot Pink! those look great and draw attention! You won't regret this purchase!
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