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Post by jaketomberlin on Mar 6, 2011 23:48:13 GMT -4
Since the Risto's are basically collector's items these days... has anybody ever heard of a custom crankbait designer that uses balsa that can basically make a "clone" of the Risto Rap?
Im talking about with an almost identical Bill, Identical body shape, Identical weight placement, ETC.
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Post by crankbaitjon on Mar 7, 2011 10:56:44 GMT -4
They can probably do it but it might cost more than the ones sold on Ebay at the moment. I'm also trying to get some RR-7 before the price really goes up.
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Post by jaketomberlin on Mar 7, 2011 13:22:33 GMT -4
Yeah, I'm trying but not having much luck. They're all close to 20 bucks new in box. And you can't win a used Risto Rap auction because the people who bid on them are like zombies and they never leave they just keep bidding.
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Post by Fishooked on Mar 7, 2011 22:12:09 GMT -4
Since the Risto's are basically collector's items these days... has anybody ever heard of a custom crankbait designer that uses balsa that can basically make a "clone" of the Risto Rap? Im talking about with an almost identical Bill, Identical body shape, Identical weight placement, ETC. Well its no major secret that Cabelas tries to mimic the Rapala models, but they obviously aren't using balsa and I haven't seen anything that looks like a Risto Rap... Man, I still find it amazing that I recall people couldn't give these lures away at flea markets for 2.00 a lure less than 10 years ago....  |
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Post by cdj711 on Mar 8, 2011 12:40:07 GMT -4
well, to make your own lures is a good idea ... if you got a lot of time and money.
i have been doing this for a while. to make one will take several hours.
i dont know what is your profession, but in most cases it would make much more sense to work anything else and use the money to buy rapala.
yes, there was just 2 or 3 years ago lots with 5 each RR listed on ebay at $24.99 starting bid, dozens of them, and lucky me got a few of these.
they were selling at $30-33 per 5, and later on you could get one here and there at starting price.
i sold most of these to fishermen around here.
to come back to the do-it-yourself question once again, if you think about it, a custom paint will cost anywhere from $5 up, and you provide or pay for the rapala. so this is just for the painting. and i am still wondering how these guys get anything out of this if you look at some of the patterns, considering time to paint, money to buy the paint and varnish, etc.
i have seen people here in germany spending up to $25 for (discontinued) rapala to fish with, and with all the new japan-style lures, these are sold here for $30 and up, i would say $10-20 for a risto rap isnt too much, if you know you will catch fish on it.
and i am quite sure prices will go down again some time; just wait and check ebay regularly, and stock up when prices are down. we have seen this with many disc. models; CDJ, H13, etc.
best,
wolfgang
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Post by jaketomberlin on Mar 8, 2011 20:36:44 GMT -4
Since the Risto's are basically collector's items these days... has anybody ever heard of a custom crankbait designer that uses balsa that can basically make a "clone" of the Risto Rap? Im talking about with an almost identical Bill, Identical body shape, Identical weight placement, ETC. Well its no major secret that Cabelas tries to mimic the Rapala models, but they obviously aren't using balsa and I haven't seen anything that looks like a Risto Rap... Man, I still find it amazing that I recall people couldn't give these lures away at flea markets for 2.00 a lure less than 10 years ago.... I can vaguely remember that as well. I know the Risto Rap 9 was the only model that my dad and I ever put to use in a tourney. And that was just because It went so deep that I was able to hit a certain spot, I hit that spot out of the back of the boat, caught two fish like bang bang, then Dad dug out a #9 and we just stuck with them the rest of the day and the next day. I think they're fantastic balsa crankbaits, but, they just never got the popularity like a DD-22, RS shad rap, Bomber's, etc. |
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Post by rocfish on Mar 8, 2011 21:32:55 GMT -4
It's funny all the people who remember getting Risto Raps cheap, and how as everyone has noticed now that they have an almost cult like following. I too can remember when the Risto was a bargain bin filler, in fact that's where I got the only one I own, a purple (plum?) one, paid just under $2 for it some years back. I don't know if I have ever even fished it, it just sits in my tackle box, but I'm a sucker for any cheap Rapala, so I buy them when they go on clearance, in hopes of fishing them.
I notice a lot of Fat Raps, especially the "glass" line being offered at cut-rate prices these days. Is this destined to be the next hot collectible for all the Ebay hawks?
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Post by jaketomberlin on Mar 12, 2011 21:57:00 GMT -4
I'm not even close to being a collector, I'm a fisherman. I mean, it's neat to see old lures still in the box but hell, a lure that's still in the package won't fit in my tackle box, and If I can't catch fish on a lure then it's worthless to me. The only reason I've been chomping at the bit desperate to find Risto Raps is because the #5 is absolutely unbeatable for early spring when bass start pushing bait up in the 10ft or less zone. It get's down to that perfect depth, represents a fat little shad, and the back and forth sliding action that it produces at the right speed is just too lifelike for a shad-hungry bass not to inhale. The size 7 is similar, but nothing matches the action of a #5. And the thing is, I just recently learned how good the #5 is and I lost the only one I had.
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Post by happyshad on Mar 13, 2011 7:58:35 GMT -4
One of the main reasons that the lure is so good early in the season is not only the subtle action that Jake speaks of in the post above, but also the fact that the bait doesn't rattle. Rick Clunn talked about that in an article that I read years ago - back before RR's. So we used Fat Raps early in the season and switched to more radical action and rattling baits like Bomber A's in June. Hopefully Jake, you will get more #5's soon!
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Post by rocfish on Mar 13, 2011 12:38:34 GMT -4
Hey Jake, I would argue any angler with a tackle box crammed with lures could be classified as a "collector".  But, I agree with you, the lures I buy are destined for the water at some point (unfortunately not often enough), so maybe we should make a distinction between "archive" collections, and "working" collections.  Also, I agree with happyshad, early in the season a non-rattling lure can often be more effective, I think most manufacturers have realized the need for this and often produce two models of new offerings, one with rattles and one without.  |
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Post by jaketomberlin on Mar 13, 2011 14:14:10 GMT -4
Thanks Happy shad, that'some neat information, I was in diapers when Rick Clunn was at his peak I guess.
Rocfish, yeah I shouldn't say Im not a collector, I am definitely a collector. I just collect the non-rare, normal, colors that are still in production, and occasionally I will buy some old colors to fish with, if they look good enough.
I think that lure collecting has to be tied to fishing in some way or else you might as well be collecting pots and pans or something..... like with the bagley collectors who collect the ones with better balsa and stronger hardware, they may not fish them, but that's what makes them so sought after, is because they murder the fish, and THATS what makes them valuable.
So yeah, we're all collectors, some people just collect rare lures and I collect lures that catch fish.
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