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Post by nathanha on Mar 7, 2011 16:05:57 GMT -4
I'm new to this but can any confirm that it appears that Rapala has a price increase nearly every year? Just last year the price went up .50 cents or better it seems.
Can somone tell me what a shad rap cost two or 3 years ago. I know today if you dont find a sale its about 8 dollars for a #7 and about 7 to 7.50 for a #5.
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Post by jmcfish10101973 on Mar 7, 2011 16:17:05 GMT -4
yes it is the more it costs the stores to get it the buyer pays more the store is not going to lose money.in my state we have the nys sells tax and a cty. tax as will. so the total sells tax is 8.75% on up of the price for a single rapala.that is why i all ways buy online.and never at the store.they have gone up at about 65 cents in the 6 months.
john.
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Post by cdj711 on Mar 8, 2011 12:45:25 GMT -4
rapala has been doing this every since they hit the market in the states.
on the old paper inserts and in old rapala catalogs you can find sales prices. it was just 5c or 10c back then. not every year or every model, but quite regularly.
now it is 50c or a dollar or 2.
rapala were incredibly expensive here in germany when i was a boy, prices dropped quite a bit, i would guess by about 50% some 20 years ago, and then went up again steadily. now you could call them expensive again.
but as just mentioned in another thread, compared to the new japan-style lures (which are up to $70 each), the rapala still is in the middle price range with about $15 a piece.
best,
w.
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Post by jaketomberlin on Mar 28, 2011 23:12:31 GMT -4
Yeah, I'm getting sick of paying ten dollars for a Shad Rap. I mean the shad rap is an incredible balsa lure, but still.... it's hard to imagine paying 100 dollars for ten Rapalas. I remember going to Wal-Mart as a kid and buying several different kinds of Jointed and original floaters and not spending more than 40 bucks. Now, if you want to have one of each size in 2 different colors you're gonna have to take out a loan.
I think one day Rapala is going to realize that they can't sell original Floaters, jointed, and shad raps close to the same price range as Lucky Craft lures.
Lucky Craft are 14 dollars. And lucky craft lures are far more advanced and better fish catchers. Don't get me wrong, I love Rapala lures and the Rapala company. But as far as serious bass fishing goes, not many people are using Rapala floaters, jointed, or balsa shad raps anymore. It's all about casting distance and covering water fast.... and companies like Lucky Craft have taken that market over.
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Post by 90collector on Mar 29, 2011 6:59:37 GMT -4
I used to be able to go into walmart with 5 bucks, get an original, and walk out with change. Now I need $7-$8, which is why ebay is usually where I go now, but even there the prices are going up
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Post by Fishooked on Mar 29, 2011 8:15:05 GMT -4
Price is always a subjective thing, so no one is going to win this argument. It all depends on where you live, where you shop, and of course, income.
In this economy you need to do some legwork to find the best deals if at all possible. Always buy when they go on sale or if you happen to have a coupon or gift card, etc. I can't comment on Lucky Craft since I don't use them - but at least not all of Rapala lures are 14.99 each.
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Post by Fishooked on Mar 29, 2011 9:52:35 GMT -4
Jake I do have to disagree with part of your statement about Lucky Craft cornering the market on lures covering the water fast.
Maybe through marketing & tournament fishing is is what Lucky Craft would want you to think, but there are plenty of other, older lures out there that can do the same thing other LC 'search baits' can do.
The RNR is a perfect example of what comes to mind.
Anyway, I guess I have a problem with LC because of their prices - sure, Rapala prices have gone up but only the Max Rap is as expensive, with the new Clackins just behind them.
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Post by jaketomberlin on Mar 29, 2011 14:28:25 GMT -4
The RNR is a great search bait, and has good action, and is a good fish catcher. I guess you could put that lure in the same class as the Lucky Craft L.V. 100.... but you also have to consider, the LV series has weight transfer (longer cast) and better weight placement during retrieve (less hangups, more hookups) I don't have any beef with the RNR, it's a great lure, but it just doesn't have as much thought put into it.
I guess when I think Rapala, I think Balsa. That's why I love Rapala. Mass produced balsa lures with great color and action, that's amazing. And even though I have a huge box with nothing but Lucky Craft pointers and Staysee's (and bevy shads)...... my most prized box of lures says "DT and Shad Rap" and consists of close to 100 DT's and Shad Raps.
Lucky Craft cannot TOUCH Rapala on crankbaits, period. If they keep refusing to go Balsa on some of their crankbaits, they will never be on Rapalas level. Plus Rapala just knows how to make diving baits.
However, Lucky Craft (right now) completely controls the market on suspending jerkbaits and topwaters.
Their jerkbaits suspend perfectly, and the weight transfer system actually works on L.C. lures.
I can justify paying 14.99 for a L.C. pointer, because there is no other lure like it, and if you throw it all day from January to March, it's likely to put a 20 lb. limit in your boat any day.
As of right now, Rapala has nothing to contend with the Pointer, Bevy Shad, Staysee, Sammy, G-splash, or Kelly J jr. But that's fine.... because Lucky Craft has nothing to contend with the Balsa shad rap or DT series... and probably never will.
And I don't pay too much attention to marketing... lol. Actually I'm starting to HATE the new Lucky Craft company that's all about advertising and making "pretty" lures. When Seiji Kato was calling the shots, Lucky Craft did not put out a lure that was not "special" in some way.
I remember the first time I threw a pointer 78 in 2001 at my home lake in March. Dear god..... it was a bloody massacre. We weighed in 22.3 lbs. of smallmouth bass.
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Post by jaketomberlin on Mar 29, 2011 15:17:53 GMT -4
And yes Ted I have a major problem with Lucky Craft prices. The pointer and a couple of other suspending jerks that were designed by Seiji Kato are the only ones worth the money.
And I don't even buy new stock pointers, I will go in a store and look for the old stock pointers in black packaging. At first glance they all look the same, but the new pointers have strayed too far from Kato's original design. I think one day you will see "old stock" pointers on E-bay going for 20+ dollars.
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Post by jmcfish10101973 on Mar 29, 2011 17:26:09 GMT -4
rapala's in n,y are very high and i will not pay these prices 6.99 to 15.99 for one rapala plus taxes which are 8.25% i mean come on so i buy all mine online
john
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Post by jaketomberlin on Mar 30, 2011 0:28:20 GMT -4
John, I'm just curious..... how much does the Average Lucky Craft lure sell for up there?
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Post by jmcfish10101973 on Mar 30, 2011 4:23:37 GMT -4
i will check today and get to you but i think they are very high too
john
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