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Post by fishing_in_israel on Mar 26, 2011 22:42:46 GMT -4
Went fishing early (and hour before first light) and tried out some 20Lb 832 Neon Lime on my Revo Inshore. First I have to say that I'm very pleased with the Neon Lime color. With a head mounted lamp I can see the line and know where my lure is in relation to the rocks (I fish from the shore). It also casts very nice - better than Power Pro but to be fair I was using 30Lb Power Pro before so maybe a difference in the line diameter. There is very little noise on the cast and on the retrieve and the color doesn't come off as it does with Power Pro. One of the main advantages for me is that my hands, nor the reel, never got wet from the line! What I mean is that when casting and retrieving with Power Pro there is always water on the line and it makes a spray that covers my hands and reel. The reel doesn't feel the cold and wet but my hands do  So now with 832 my hands and the reel stay dry and warmer - well at least my hands do. I suppose less water on the reel means less wear and maintenance. Conclusion? Very pleased with Sufix 832 and look forward to using it again next fishing trip..... Nigel |
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Post by bacon on Mar 26, 2011 23:20:31 GMT -4
hey nigel, thats great to hear, i really like the idea of the line not holding the water, sounds really like braid that acts more like mono, i cant wait to use mine.
bacon
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Post by fishing_in_israel on Mar 27, 2011 11:11:55 GMT -4
hey nigel, thats great to hear, i really like the idea of the line not holding the water, sounds really like braid that acts more like mono, i cant wait to use mine. bacon Perhaps like mono but with near zero memory and a joy to fish with...... |
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Post by omigosh on Mar 27, 2011 13:30:29 GMT -4
You just convinced me to go and get some! The keeping your hands dry & warm really is a plus.
Did you do any good with the spanish?
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Post by fishing_in_israel on Mar 27, 2011 22:38:17 GMT -4
You just convinced me to go and get some! The keeping your hands dry & warm really is a plus. Did you do any good with the spanish? Not even a take nor any sign of baitfish on the surface  But I still enjoyed getting out there  |
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Post by fishing_in_israel on Apr 17, 2011 4:24:46 GMT -4
Update: After a couple of long (8 hours) saltwater sessions, the Sufix 832 Neon Lime isn't really Neon Lime anymore  It's not all that bad -- I can still see the line in the dark with a head mounted flashlight and it also gives me a visual guide to my casting distances. I generally use the same type of lures (maximum distance ones) and when the lure is nearing the end of its cast I can see the darker original color line appear under the faded lighter section thus enabling me to know when to start applying pressure with my thumb. I did notice that the 832 is much quieter than Power Pro and much drier - although in the light of my head mounted flashlight I did notice a light spray when I was casting but nothing compared to Power Pro. Nigel |
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Post by bryms2003 on Jun 5, 2011 14:47:10 GMT -4
Thats Just What I wanted to hear I was wondering if i should try it. I love my power pro line but the 832 looked interesting. Now i'm Definitely going to get some.
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Post by fishing_in_israel on Jun 6, 2011 12:31:43 GMT -4
Thats Just What I wanted to hear I was wondering if i should try it. I love my power pro line but the 832 looked interesting. Now i'm Definitely going to get some. I'd hold your horses for a moment. I'm starting to have doubts as to how good this 832 line really is. At first it was really good - quiet, relatively dry on the retrieve and cast and felt smooth. Casting was good at the beginning. Now though I'm starting to have problems with the line sticking to itself on the spool (I use a baitcaster). What happens is that with an average weight bait (around 15g) the line doesn't exactly backlash but it sticks to itself and turns on the spool instead of coming off the spool. During a cast the line doesn't nest up but just simply goes around the back of the spool and immediately it snags itself and the lure stops mid flight. I can even duplicate it by just pulling line off the spool, with a slight thumb pressure, and watch the line going under the spool - it doesn't go 'up' like in a regular birdsnest but under and it doesn't even knot or anything, just snags and then with a short pull on the line it reverses the spool direction and the line is free again. If I put on a heavier bait - around 28g (1 oz) then the problem mostly disappears. I must say that it is getting to be a bit of a problem such that I'm really thinking of stripping it off and putting PowerPro back on. Nigel |
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Post by bryms2003 on Jun 6, 2011 17:59:07 GMT -4
LOL Horses Are Held
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Post by fishing_in_israel on Jun 7, 2011 1:15:37 GMT -4
Thinking about the problems of line stickiness it might be due to saltwater. I went to our swimming pool yesterday and initially had problems but after I had stripped about 50m of line off and 'washed' it in the fresh water of the pool (we don't have chemicals in the pool, only a trace amount of chlorine to hold back the algae - its main purpose is a reservoir for irrigating the kibbutz fields) I didn't have the same problems. BUT that doesn't help a saltwater fisherman like me (the Eastern Mediterranean has a higher salt content than other oceans).
Nigel
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Post by bulldog21 on Jun 7, 2011 2:53:29 GMT -4
You really do a great job testing lures and line. I always enjoy reading about your findings  |
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Post by fishing_in_israel on Jun 7, 2011 5:26:58 GMT -4
You really do a great job testing lures and line. I always enjoy reading about your findings Thanks Ryan. I suppose it's because where I fish I need to know what individual lures will do. I mostly fish around reefs and there are a lot of submerged ones giving cover for the fish. The problem is that the reefs are made of a very rough sandstone which snag lures real easy; so I have to know how far a lure will cast on whatever rod/reel I'm going to be using and how deep it will swim. Sometimes I need a lure that will cast as far as possible to be able to get out to the edge of the reef where, hopefully, the larger fish are patrolling. If I'm targeting the smaller (immature) groupers, then I just need to have the lure in and around the submerged reef and its outcrops - X-Raps and Fmag -9's are great although I'm going to try some F-9's and J-9's on my ultralight this summer (those grouper dive fast and hard though and will quickly take you into their hiding holes). Unlike you still water anglers, the swell of the ocean can really make things difficult when trying to fish around submerged obstacles  Nigel |
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Post by fishing_in_israel on Jun 8, 2011 12:00:53 GMT -4
Little update: The problems that I had with the 'stickiness' of the 832 first appeared with my lighter baitcaster combo - an oldish single-handed two piece rod and a brand new Abu Garcia Orra SX loaded with Suffix 832 10lb. The rod will cast baits from 5-25g. From the very beginning I was noticing the 'stickiness' with baits around the 11g mark and put it down to the reel being a lower cost version of the Revo Inshore coupled with lighter baits. Then when the same problems of 'stickiness' started to show up on my Revo Inshore I started to suspect the Suffix 832. So today I went out to test the Orra SX combo with PowerPro 10lb which I had loaded yesterday instead of the 832. Guess what? It casts like a dream No 'stickiness', no reluctance for the line to flow off the spool - just nice smooth casting I clipped on an LCM-10 (11g) and went up to the nice stretch of grass near where I live and made a few gentle casts. Then went full force with hard casts to see what would be -- no problems at all - LCM-10 = 32m -- which for a single handed baitcaster is pretty good Next I'll try the swimming pool to see how it casts wet..... I put the two lots of 832 from my Orra SX and Revo Inshore on a couple of spinning outfits that I have and rarely use Nigel |
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Post by fishing_in_israel on Jun 9, 2011 12:31:12 GMT -4
Went to our swimming pool with the Orra Sx loaded with 10lb PowerPro to check how the PowerPro casts wet compared to the Sufix 832 with lightish baits.
For the test I made several casts with a Floating Magnum-7 (7g); a J-9 (7g) and an X-Rap-8 (7g). I didn't mean for them all to be 7g - they're just the ones I grabbed as I didn't have much time before they closed the swimming pool.
Anyway, they all cast great and about the same distance - around about the 25m mark.
I had no problems at all with the PowerPro and I could feel the line lifting up off the spool during the cast but to no ill effect (my thumb is well educated). I certainly didn't experience any of the 'stickiness' that the Sufix 832 exhibited.
Conclusion: You can keep your Sufix 832 and I will stick with PowerPro until I find something better.
Nigel
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Post by bryms2003 on Jun 9, 2011 20:07:40 GMT -4
Thank you Nigel. I've been a fan of Power Pro for a long time now on spinning reels (I am VERY dysfunctional with Bait casters). I'll "stick" with my Power Pro.
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Post by fishing_in_israel on Aug 13, 2011 13:34:00 GMT -4
Thinking about the problems of line stickiness it might be due to saltwater. I went to our swimming pool yesterday and initially had problems but after I had stripped about 50m of line off and 'washed' it in the fresh water of the pool (we don't have chemicals in the pool, only a trace amount of chlorine to hold back the algae - its main purpose is a reservoir for irrigating the kibbutz fields) I didn't have the same problems. BUT that doesn't help a saltwater fisherman like me (the Eastern Mediterranean has a higher salt content than other oceans). Nigel I've been doing some more researching about braided lines and thanks to this article: How to choose PE Braided lines? (PE stands for 'Poly-Ethylene' of which Dyneema and Spectra are brand names) I have come to a better understanding of the different types of braided lines on the market. I now understand why I was having problems with the [not so] new Sufix 832 on my baitcasters: It seems that the coating on the 832 is quite soft which lends to its suppleness and great casting abilities but this negatively affects the lines ability to withstand the digging in that harder coated lines like PowerPro overcome. In short, the 832 starts to dig into the line on the spool and causes the 'stickiness' that caused the backlashes. I did try it on a spinning reel and there were no such problems and it behaved very well. So, if anybody else has tried it on a baitcaster it would be interesting to hear about your experiences.... In the meantime I have been looking at those expensive Japanese braids but have decided that I can't afford them and so I'm going to buy some Hi-Seas Grand Slam Braid and see how it fairs.... Nigel |
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Post by omigosh on Aug 13, 2011 18:31:48 GMT -4
After Nigels early reviews I decided to try the 80 lb. test for one of my muskie reels. I have since caught two muskies on it and I am satisfied so far. None of the stickiness described earlier. I am pleased with the water resistant qualities. I'm not getting nearly as wet!
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Post by fishing_in_israel on Aug 13, 2011 23:31:09 GMT -4
After Nigels early reviews I decided to try the 80 lb. test for one of my muskie reels. I have since caught two muskies on it and I am satisfied so far. None of the stickiness described earlier. I am pleased with the water resistant qualities. I'm not getting nearly as wet! I first noticed the stickiness on my Orra Sx loaded with 20Lb 832 and using lures up to 12g (3/8 oz). However with my Revo Inshore loaded with 30Lb 832 and casting lures up to 28g (1 oz) I never noticed the 'stickiness', but trying to cast lighter weight lures like the X-Rap 10 (13g) it was immediately noticeable. So I would say that you probably are OK with it as you are using heavier lures (and line) for your musky hunting. Nigel |
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Post by walter on Aug 31, 2011 19:37:15 GMT -4
thanks nigel, this thread is very interesting
i think you caught the problem: salt. even if line does look wet, it absorbs a little water, so salt can remain in it.
here in italy they say it's better to wash your tackle after every day fishing in the sea, maybe this is too much, but once in a week can be useful.
btw: great review!!!
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